martes, 4 de diciembre de 2007

Borran Hilos completos sobre el 11/S en Forocoches

¿Creéis que hay censura en Internet en el año 2007? Nosotros pensamos que sí, por lo siguiente:

Han borrado dos hilos sobre el 11-S en Forocoches (uno de los foros más visitados de Internet) después de que unos debunkers (pseudo-escépticos) se pusiesen a insultar, a sembrar el hilo de basura y a reportar el hilo sin motivo. Los foristas que estaban interesados en el 11-S no se dejaron provocar, pero Forocoches, en vez de amonestar a los debunkers, borró el hilo completo injustamente. No me extrañaría que algunos debunkers fuesen profesionales (?).

La censura es bastante más grave de lo que parece, pues aparte de que atenta contra el derecho a la Libertad de Expresión, también impide que la sociedad llegue a conocer ciertas “verdades incómodas”. De ese modo nos mantienen en la ignorancia, como a las ovejas de un rebaño, y nos pueden manipular con más facilidad.
Por favor, quien pueda ayudar con este caso de CENSURA, se agradecerá, pero sin compromiso ninguno.

¿Qué podéis hacer? Os proponemos tres cosas:

1) Que personas distintas abran hilos sobre el 11-S en Forocoches y se incluya una encuesta (la encuesta es importante para poder ver la opinión de quienes no participan). Así al menos los debunkers tendrán más trabajo y se les podría denunciar o dejar en evidencia.

Si alguien se anima a abrir un hilo sobre el 11-S, en el Post 1 de este hilo encontraréis mucha info útil al respecto:

Hilo de referencia sobre el 11-S con encuesta incluida:
http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_11-S--9-11----Atentado-terrorista----o-auto-atentado-del-gobierno-USA----2-_886813

Si abrís algún hilo nuevo sobre el 11-S, por favor, avisarnos en este clan:

- Clan El Proyecto Matriz fundado por Sarvin (Un Montón)
http://es.netlog.com/clan/Ufo

2) Enviarles e-mails de protesta a los gestores de Forocoches por este caso de censura y denunciar a los debunkers (los que insultan, etc.):

Atención al cliente de Forocoches:
info@forocoches.com

Los dos hilos del 11-S que han borrado eran estos dos:
http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?p=22068068#post22068068
http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=693019

3) Quien tenga página web, quizás podría poner un artículo sobre la censura en Internet y especialmente en Forocoches. En la P.D. os doy info útil sobre la censura en Internet.

P.D. Por si alguien se anima a hacer un artículo sobre la censura en Internet, aquí hay alguna info útil al respecto:

* Aclaraciones sobre lo sucedido en Forocoches en la semana del 26 al 30-nov:

Tenemos un backup los dos hilos, así que podemos demostrar lo que pasó. Además, hicimos una reclamación a Forocoches que nos respondió esto:

Dice Forocoches: No había visto ese tema que del que has avisado '693019', he revisado que en las ultimas paginas hay mensajes sin sentido y algunos insultos por lo que lo elimino para evitar mas discusiones o insultos puesto que siendo un tema iniciado hace varios meses no tiene actividad relativa al contenido inicial y como indicas hay usuarios que no se comportan adecuadamente.

Sin embargo, nosotros pensamos que lo que ha sucedido es distinto: Hay un grupo concreto y bien conocido de personas (Grupo “A”) que son los que se han dedicado en exclusiva a poner posts sin sentido, a insultar y a provocar a la demás gente (al Grupo “B”: personas interesadas en el tema) para incitarles a discutir. Pero el “Grupo B” (los interesados en el tema) ha procurado no dejarse provocar y ha seguido hablando del tema del hilo con normalidad y con respeto.

Por eso no creemos que deban pagar justos por pecadores. El “Grupo B” (los interesados en el tema) no ha incumplido las normas y no es responsable de los incumplimientos del “Grupo A” (los que insultan). Además, por esa regla de tres, cualquier persona podría provocar que cerrasen cualquier hilo si entrase en él y se dedicase a insultar. Y eso no sería razonable.

34 comentarios:

.:sM4b:. dijo...

___________________________
Correo enviado a forocoches

Hola Sres.

Tengo entendido que han procedido a suprimir los hilos de su
foro en los que se aportaba en relación con la falsa bandera
de los atentados del 11S.

Supongo que como saben lo que hacen sabran que estan uds.
manteniendo una actitud predispuesta a seguir con este burdo
e insultante encubrimiento.

Deben saber tambien que las personas mas inteligentes del
planeta no se creen nada de lo que se supone que se tienen
que creer y esto es una carrera cuenta atras. Uds simplemente
pueden estar a favor de la VERDAD o a favor de la MENTIRA
ENCUBRIDORA.

Uds veran donde van a quedar cuando de una vez por todas
los poderes facticos no puedan sujetar mas el tapon que intenta
cerrar este cochambroso asunto que lo es mas cuando uno
sabe que todo se trata de un plan milimetricamente calculado
global y atemporal puesto que desde hace mucho tiempo las
clases elites del planeta estan por esta labor.

Quedo en la confianza que actuaran en conciencia (despierta)

.:sM4b:.
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.:sM4b:. dijo...

___________________________
Correo enviado a forocoches

Hola Sres.

Tengo entendido que han procedido a suprimir los hilos de su foro en los que se aportaba en relación con la falsa bandera de los atentados del 11S.

Supongo que como saben lo que hacen sabran que estan uds.
manteniendo una actitud predispuesta a seguir con este burdo e insultante encubrimiento.

Deben saber tambien que las personas mas inteligentes del
planeta no se creen nada de lo que se supone que se tienen que creer y esto es una carrera cuenta atras. Uds simplemente pueden estar a favor de la VERDAD o a favor de la MENTIRA
ENCUBRIDORA.

Uds veran donde van a quedar cuando de una vez por todas
los poderes facticos no puedan sujetar mas el tapon que intenta
cerrar este cochambroso asunto que lo es mas cuando uno sabe que todo se trata de un plan milimetricamente calculado
global y atemporal puesto que desde hace mucho tiempo las
clases elites del planeta estan por esta labor.

Quedo en la confianza que actuaran en conciencia (despierta)

.:sM4b:.
http://elhackbogado.es/
http://theallseeingeye.org/
http://sueltatecontaptoe.com/

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